Comments on: Scholarship Screwup #4: Give Us Some Vague, Self-Absorbed Plans for Your Future http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/ Renegade Advice About Scholarships, Financial Aid, College & Jobs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:51:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Habtemichael http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-13332 Habtemichael Wed, 21 Sep 2011 15:22:24 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-13332 thanks for your great advise thanks for your great advise

]]> By: lilian njambi Kunyiha http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-8912 lilian njambi Kunyiha Mon, 24 Jan 2011 05:38:59 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-8912 Hi lies is not a wepeon in my life and I know truth will always set me free. Also I know God is not happy when we lie to get favour from someone . GOd is faithful and I know that He will kmake a way for me and win that scholarship because I need it badly to achieve my goals and dreams. Lilian Hi
lies is not a wepeon in my life and I know truth will always set me free. Also I know God is not happy when we lie to get favour from someone . GOd is faithful and I know that He will kmake a way for me and win that scholarship because I need it badly to achieve my goals and dreams.
Lilian

]]> By: Bernice http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-8346 Bernice Thu, 09 Dec 2010 04:50:48 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-8346 I would say lie but I might suggest some creativity I would say lie but I might suggest some creativity

]]> By: Morgane http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-6788 Morgane Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:26:40 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-6788 Want fortune, popularity, and power the easy way? Sure! ...All you have to do is lie, cheat, and steal. Okay, I'll be honest (no pun intended): Your suggestion is telling people the EASIEST ways to win scholarships. And if that is what people are looking for, by all means, this is what is going to work for the majority of times. Unfortunately, for those of us who have a problem with questioning our integrity, we will get the shaft in scholarship money when going against those who make up LIES to make themselves sound like angels, but in reality could care less about helping others. Yes, it is CHEATING to lie on a scholarship application so you can get an advantage over the other applicants, and is essentially STEALING from those who actually qualify and deserve the scholarship. Let's face reality, people. FACT #1: It is wrong to lie on a scholarship application. FACT #2: Yes, everyone has lied sometime in their life. We're not all perfect. FACT #3: Lying about your goals in life, etc. will probably help you win a scholarship more than if you mention you don't have the best people-loving intentions for your future career. Fact #4: Readers, it is up to YOU to decide if you would rather question your morals (if your have any) for extra money from a scholarship, its on your head. You are responsible for your agency. Fact #5: For those of us who do not lie on our scholarship applications, my respect goes to you. These days, honest people are becoming more few and far between, which makes life stink for us who earn things the honest way. I commend you for your standards. Don't worry- you will get your reward for your honesty and high standards, whether through a scholarship or other form of benefit in life. As for now, we must live in a world that does not respect the actions that used to be considered 'just doing what's right'. For those people like this, keep strong. You do not stand alone. (: Want fortune, popularity, and power the easy way?

Sure! …All you have to do is lie, cheat, and steal. Okay, I’ll be honest (no pun intended): Your suggestion is telling people the EASIEST ways to win scholarships. And if that is what people are looking for, by all means, this is what is going to work for the majority of times.

Unfortunately, for those of us who have a problem with questioning our integrity, we will get the shaft in scholarship money when going against those who make up LIES to make themselves sound like angels, but in reality could care less about helping others.
Yes, it is CHEATING to lie on a scholarship application so you can get an advantage over the other applicants, and is essentially STEALING from those who actually qualify and deserve the scholarship.

Let’s face reality, people.
FACT #1: It is wrong to lie on a scholarship application.
FACT #2: Yes, everyone has lied sometime in their life. We’re not all perfect.
FACT #3: Lying about your goals in life, etc. will probably help you win a scholarship more than if you mention you don’t have the best people-loving intentions for your future career.
Fact #4: Readers, it is up to YOU to decide if you would rather question your morals (if your have any) for extra money from a scholarship, its on your head. You are responsible for your agency.
Fact #5: For those of us who do not lie on our scholarship applications, my respect goes to you. These days, honest people are becoming more few and far between, which makes life stink for us who earn things the honest way. I commend you for your standards. Don’t worry- you will get your reward for your honesty and high standards, whether through a scholarship or other form of benefit in life. As for now, we must live in a world that does not respect the actions that used to be considered ‘just doing what’s right’. For those people like this, keep strong. You do not stand alone. (:

]]> By: MJ http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3612 MJ Thu, 24 Jun 2010 16:22:23 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3612 This is horrible. You're suggesting that we lie about our aspirations - why stop there, why not lie about your Scholarship Screwup #3 and say we came from a horrible background when we actually live in Suburbia? This "suggestion" confirms my suspicions that this advice is immoral and should be avoided at all costs. Now I will go out of my way to avoid applying for your scholarships, as money is not worth selling you my integrity. I hope other students will do the same. I'm guessing what's listed at the bottom of this page is also a lie: that the writer of these bad ideas "subscribes to the Statement of Principles of Good Practice". This is horrible. You’re suggesting that we lie about our aspirations – why stop there, why not lie about your Scholarship Screwup #3 and say we came from a horrible background when we actually live in Suburbia? This “suggestion” confirms my suspicions that this advice is immoral and should be avoided at all costs. Now I will go out of my way to avoid applying for your scholarships, as money is not worth selling you my integrity. I hope other students will do the same.

I’m guessing what’s listed at the bottom of this page is also a lie: that the writer of these bad ideas “subscribes to the Statement of Principles of Good Practice”.

]]> By: Paige Fletcher http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3611 Paige Fletcher Thu, 13 May 2010 02:41:06 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3611 When you said were going to send you comments to improve your easy, I said sure ok that would help. But your just ignorant donkeys and coming with false information out of your butt. Screw this. stop. with this. When you said were going to send you comments to improve your easy, I said sure ok that would help. But your just ignorant donkeys and coming with false information out of your butt. Screw this. stop. with this.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3609 Anonymous Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:56:33 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3609 What if someone makes an exaggerated lie and I tell the truth? Is there a chance that they will win over me because they had a better imagination than a dramatic plan that I'm describing? I mean I'd imagine a student saying he wants to earn lots of money to bring about world peace by creating some secret society that confiscates all weapons and destroys them, then covertly brainwashes everyone winning if all I said was that I wanted to build nonprofits and change laws so that capitalism is more equitable and then discuss who I might contact. Also sometimes students are vague because they want to get something across to you and still meet the word count. How would you suggest that students decide which descriptions should have more emphasis? What if someone makes an exaggerated lie and I tell the truth? Is there a chance that they will win over me because they had a better imagination than a dramatic plan that I’m describing? I mean I’d imagine a student saying he wants to earn lots of money to bring about world peace by creating some secret society that confiscates all weapons and destroys them, then covertly brainwashes everyone winning if all I said was that I wanted to build nonprofits and change laws so that capitalism is more equitable and then discuss who I might contact.

Also sometimes students are vague because they want to get something across to you and still meet the word count. How would you suggest that students decide which descriptions should have more emphasis?

]]> By: LDreamChick http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3610 LDreamChick Fri, 23 Apr 2010 10:56:25 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3610 What if someone makes an exaggerated lie and I tell the truth? Is there a chance that they will win over me because they had a better imagination than a dramatic plan that I'm describing? I mean I'd imagine a student saying he wants to earn lots of money to bring about world peace by creating some secret society that confiscates all weapons and destroys them, then covertly brainwashes everyone winning if all I said was that I wanted to build nonprofits and change laws so that capitalism is more equitable and then discuss who I might contact. Also sometimes students are vague because they want to get something across to you and still meet the word count. How would you suggest that students decide which descriptions should have more emphasis? What if someone makes an exaggerated lie and I tell the truth? Is there a chance that they will win over me because they had a better imagination than a dramatic plan that I’m describing? I mean I’d imagine a student saying he wants to earn lots of money to bring about world peace by creating some secret society that confiscates all weapons and destroys them, then covertly brainwashes everyone winning if all I said was that I wanted to build nonprofits and change laws so that capitalism is more equitable and then discuss who I might contact.

Also sometimes students are vague because they want to get something across to you and still meet the word count. How would you suggest that students decide which descriptions should have more emphasis?

]]> By: Matt Long http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3608 Matt Long Mon, 05 Apr 2010 19:58:00 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3608 Josh, First off, I would like to say that your tips are, by far, the best pieces of advice I have ever read on writing to win scholarships. I have spent days reading articles attempting to help the applicants but until now they have been sub-par. You clearly outline every area of how a scholarship applications go dead wrong. I love the way you bluntly describe the mistakes the majority of students make when writing scholarship essays. I greatly appreciate your spot-on advice and say "Keep the Tips Coming!" My only area of disagreement comes but with your positive view of the nature of man. Your quote- "I don?t think it?s bad that all people lie. I think it?s part of the human condition and nothing to be ashamed of." Yes, sin is most certainly part of the human condition but I think that we should be ashamed of misleading people. The problem is we've done it so many times that we become so used to it that it doesn't even feel wrong anymore. While your job is to help students maximize their scholarship award, I do feel that telling them that lying is justified in this area will only hurt them in the future. But you are entitled to your opinion and I appreciate virtually every piece of it! Matt Long- Student Class of 10 Josh,
First off, I would like to say that your tips are, by far, the best pieces of advice I have ever read on writing to win scholarships. I have spent days reading articles attempting to help the applicants but until now they have been sub-par. You clearly outline every area of how a scholarship applications go dead wrong. I love the way you bluntly describe the mistakes the majority of students make when writing scholarship essays. I greatly appreciate your spot-on advice and say “Keep the Tips Coming!”
My only area of disagreement comes but with your positive view of the nature of man. Your quote- “I don?t think it?s bad that all people lie. I think it?s part of the human condition and nothing to be ashamed of.” Yes, sin is most certainly part of the human condition but I think that we should be ashamed of misleading people. The problem is we’ve done it so many times that we become so used to it that it doesn’t even feel wrong anymore. While your job is to help students maximize their scholarship award, I do feel that telling them that lying is justified in this area will only hurt them in the future. But you are entitled to your opinion and I appreciate virtually every piece of it!
Matt Long- Student
Class of 10

]]> By: Crystal http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3607 Crystal Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:16:06 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3607 I must disagree with your suggestion about lying. If I am to recieve a scholarship, I want to know that I am trusted and that I am expected to fulfill the promises that I had made about my future hopes. If I were giving scholarships out to people to students, I would hope to give to the most deserving, to those who were planning on making a positive impact on society. Unfortunately, it is a common occurrence that the liars and cheaters will make their way to thje top with ease. Should we not be trying to combat such things? I do tell the utter unadulterated truth when apply for scholarships. I do actually want to make a difference, help people and change lives. I would like to commend all of those people who have left comments on this page who share my views regarding integrity. We must hold on to our moral scrupels in this decaying society. Perhaps sometimes the consequence iof this is that we miss out on certain oppertunities but I believe that it is worth it-rather than losing and selling yourself with deception and cheating. I must disagree with your suggestion about lying. If I am to recieve a scholarship, I want to know that I am trusted and that I am expected to fulfill the promises that I had made about my future hopes. If I were giving scholarships out to people to students, I would hope to give to the most deserving, to those who were planning on making a positive impact on society. Unfortunately, it is a common occurrence that the liars and cheaters will make their way to thje top with ease. Should we not be trying to combat such things? I do tell the utter unadulterated truth when apply for scholarships. I do actually want to make a difference, help people and change lives. I would like to commend all of those people who have left comments on this page who share my views regarding integrity. We must hold on to our moral scrupels in this decaying society. Perhaps sometimes the consequence iof this is that we miss out on certain oppertunities but I believe that it is worth it-rather than losing and selling yourself with deception and cheating.

]]> By: Danice http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3606 Danice Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:37:54 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3606 I have read the aritcle BE vague and Selfish about your future. It makes reference to explaining how its important to make a point to stand out and share whats different from me to the other thousands/millions of people... One thing that puts me in the smaller catagory is I won't lie to get money, story stretch or embellious, and this is why I will probably will be put on the bottom of the scholarships list. BUT if thats the case I am ok with that. My intergrity has no price it can't be bought, and thats why I believe i will make a hell of a nurse someday. I do the right thing to the best of my ability, because its the right thing, and if I get a fat paycheck then thats a bonus.. I have read the aritcle BE vague and Selfish about your future.
It makes reference to explaining how its important to make a point to stand out and share whats different from me to the other thousands/millions of people… One thing that puts me in the smaller catagory is I won’t lie to get money, story stretch or embellious, and this is why I will probably will be put on the bottom of the scholarships list. BUT if thats the case I am ok with that. My intergrity has no price it can’t be bought, and thats why I believe i will make a hell of a nurse someday. I do the right thing to the best of my ability, because its the right thing, and if I get a fat paycheck then thats a bonus..

]]> By: mohamed http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3605 mohamed Sun, 15 Nov 2009 11:18:16 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3605 I am actually one of those people who gave up the promise of a high-paying job for a lower-paying job that I feel will be more fulfilling because of its service-oriented nature. I gave up pharmacy for education. Although a pharmacist’s salary is absolutely amazing, I would much rather give that up for the joy and satisfaction of administering education to and having a positive impact on the lives of so many young children. I am actually one of those people who gave up the promise of a high-paying job for a lower-paying job that I feel will be more fulfilling because of its service-oriented nature. I gave up pharmacy for education. Although a pharmacist’s salary is absolutely amazing, I would much rather give that up for the joy and satisfaction of administering education to and having a positive impact on the lives of so many young children.

]]> By: Ephrem http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3604 Ephrem Sun, 08 Nov 2009 09:05:29 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3604 It's a bery nice advice for me, since I am abignner for applying ascholarship I have got enough kowlegde for my future application. Thank you very much!!! It’s a bery nice advice for me, since I am abignner for applying ascholarship I have got enough kowlegde for my future application. Thank you very much!!!

]]> By: shanaye http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3603 shanaye Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:57:12 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3603 thanks for the advice! thanks for the advice!

]]> By: Carrie http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3602 Carrie Fri, 16 Oct 2009 02:04:47 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3602 Awesome advice!! So true and thank you! Awesome advice!! So true and thank you!

]]> By: Iyasu Hailu http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3601 Iyasu Hailu Sun, 06 Sep 2009 07:37:07 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3601 Mr. Josh or Ash, I am so pleased in my outer face that everybody is telling lie. Huh? Be cool, get stuck with it, I am not doing my homework yet. Shame on you !!! Mr. Josh or Ash, I am so pleased in my outer face that everybody is telling lie. Huh? Be cool, get stuck with it, I am not doing my homework yet. Shame on you !!!

]]> By: Monika http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3600 Monika Sat, 05 Sep 2009 06:56:13 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3600 I diagree with the lying part... I know that it is how you can win a scholarship, however if you just want a job that earn big bucks, would you truly be happy with it? Scholarships should be given to those who actually want to help others and not just to buy a nice sports car etc. I know that it would be hard to know whose lying in the essays but I just don't think its right...Lying to get a scholarship...is that a scholarship you deserve even if you do win it? I don't think so.... Just an opinon.... I diagree with the lying part… I know that it is how you can win a scholarship, however if you just want a job that earn big bucks, would you truly be happy with it? Scholarships should be given to those who actually want to help others and not just to buy a nice sports car etc. I know that it would be hard to know whose lying in the essays but I just don’t think its right…Lying to get a scholarship…is that a scholarship you deserve even if you do win it? I don’t think so….

Just an opinon….

]]> By: Tanya http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3599 Tanya Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:11:25 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3599 Oh yes, I forgot something. "Why not lie about your GPA or extracurriculars?" because that is something that can be easily looked up, and then you would automatically lose. Lying about things that are facts and tangible, such as GPA's, extracurriculars, etc. definitely not a good thing. Not that lying about anything is a good thing, but if you need to stretch the truth about passion/dedication and future plans in order to make things sound better or help you get something, then do it. Whether you lie or not, may turn out to be a lie anyways...our futures are not set in stone. You may say I want to be a lawyer to be rich....but, turn out to be an unsuccessful lawyer, or found that true passion about helping those less fortunate and not making tonnes of money, or not become a lawyer at all because you decided you didn't like it, or you failed a class or two..... Say what you want, nothing's certain anymore until it happens (other than death of course!) Oh yes, I forgot something. “Why not lie about your GPA or extracurriculars?” because that is something that can be easily looked up, and then you would automatically lose. Lying about things that are facts and tangible, such as GPA’s, extracurriculars, etc. definitely not a good thing. Not that lying about anything is a good thing, but if you need to stretch the truth about passion/dedication and future plans in order to make things sound better or help you get something, then do it.

Whether you lie or not, may turn out to be a lie anyways…our futures are not set in stone. You may say I want to be a lawyer to be rich….but, turn out to be an unsuccessful lawyer, or found that true passion about helping those less fortunate and not making tonnes of money, or not become a lawyer at all because you decided you didn’t like it, or you failed a class or two…..

Say what you want, nothing’s certain anymore until it happens (other than death of course!)

]]> By: Tanya http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3598 Tanya Thu, 03 Sep 2009 13:02:26 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3598 I haven't made it through all these comments yet, but, it's not so much as lying, but embellishing the truth. Obviously, when choosing a career, not only are we looking at the "are we going to enjoy it" part, but we do consider the salary that comes along with it. However, when applying for scholarships, most judges are looking for the humanitarian side and the passion and dedication you will provide to the career. SO yes, you may have chosen a career because it will make you rich (only if you're good at it), but there had to have been another driving force behind it....that's what he wants you to focus on!!! I haven’t made it through all these comments yet, but, it’s not so much as lying, but embellishing the truth. Obviously, when choosing a career, not only are we looking at the “are we going to enjoy it” part, but we do consider the salary that comes along with it. However, when applying for scholarships, most judges are looking for the humanitarian side and the passion and dedication you will provide to the career. SO yes, you may have chosen a career because it will make you rich (only if you’re good at it), but there had to have been another driving force behind it….that’s what he wants you to focus on!!!

]]> By: Tasha http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-4-give-us-some-vague-self-absorbed-plans-for-your-future/#comment-3597 Tasha Mon, 24 Aug 2009 03:16:34 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=132#comment-3597 I totally disagree with lying. This is bad karma. Lying takes away from our soul. Be creative. I am sure an intelligent applicant can write in such a way that can put good information in without lying. I believe most people want more from a job than a fat pay check. Lying NEVER pays. Tasha I totally disagree with lying. This is bad karma. Lying takes away from our soul.

Be creative. I am sure an intelligent applicant can write in such a way that can put good information in without lying. I believe most people want more from a job than a fat pay check.

Lying NEVER pays.

Tasha

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