Comments on: Scholarship Screwup #2: Bore Me With Your GPA http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/ Renegade Advice About Scholarships, Financial Aid, College & Jobs Thu, 02 Feb 2012 22:16:28 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Amony Malle http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-16583 Amony Malle Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:45:00 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-16583 I could say look at some famous people that never go school and they achieved to their dreams and hope. I could say what is matter the most is the effort who put in to achieved their goals and dreams. Even my GPA is low, I use that GPA to be my motivation and I willing to stand strong to achieve my dreams. I could say look at some famous people that never go school and they achieved to their dreams and hope. I could say what is matter the most is the effort who put in to achieved their goals and dreams. Even my GPA is low, I use that GPA to be my motivation and I willing to stand strong to achieve my dreams.

]]> By: Amony Malle http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-16582 Amony Malle Tue, 27 Dec 2011 19:36:36 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-16582 My point about GPA. GPA is a rate of number only for high school and college to see who the highest students or not. Its really matter about the student who willing to put effort in school and college to get a higher GPA or not. GPA is a motivation for students to put effort in school and college; maybe not. Its really depend on the students. Yes, in high school students GPA is 3.0 and up, BUT when they enter in college the GPA went down to a 2.0 because it really depend on the students effort or they try their best an end up to get a 2.0 in the first semester. Sometime is not a good ideas to always look at the GPA because is only the number rate of students and never know or see the effort the students put in high school or college. My point about GPA. GPA is a rate of number only for high school and college to see who the highest students or not. Its really matter about the student who willing to put effort in school and college to get a higher GPA or not. GPA is a motivation for students to put effort in school and college; maybe not. Its really depend on the students. Yes, in high school students GPA is 3.0 and up, BUT when they enter in college the GPA went down to a 2.0 because it really depend on the students effort or they try their best an end up to get a 2.0 in the first semester. Sometime is not a good ideas to always look at the GPA because is only the number rate of students and never know or see the effort the students put in high school or college.

]]> By: dana http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-12080 dana Thu, 18 Aug 2011 01:49:01 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-12080 honestly, i totally agree with this. its the effort that a student puts in to learn what they need to learn. the GPA and grades are just like ages. you can be 46 years old and act like an 18 year old. it doesnt matter what age you are, its just a number. same thing with grades and GPAs .. their just number to see how you rate to others. whats important though, is the fact that a number determines if you will be able to pass a class... which i think is lame. but this is a good point though, grades are nothing but major hype that mankind created. honestly, i totally agree with this. its the effort that a student puts in to learn what they need to learn. the GPA and grades are just like ages. you can be 46 years old and act like an 18 year old. it doesnt matter what age you are, its just a number. same thing with grades and GPAs .. their just number to see how you rate to others. whats important though, is the fact that a number determines if you will be able to pass a class… which i think is lame. but this is a good point though, grades are nothing but major hype that mankind created.

]]> By: This is too funny... http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-9455 This is too funny... Wed, 23 Mar 2011 01:28:03 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-9455 I'm laughing so badly from seeing these 4.0ers whining and bitching that their high GPAs don't mean squat for college admissions and scholarships. Face the facts, national test scores are far more important than GPA. My 2210 SAT score opened up doors to the most prestigious colleges in the nation (I attend Princeton now), and I pay absolutely NOTHING to attend. Despite my horrendous 3.42 high school GPA, I managed to get my ass into an Ivy. Currently, I make a few bucks working in the admissions office. The things I hear while working there are completely different than what their ad-coms tell students. One of the things they mention from time to time is that a high test score can make up for a low GPA, but a high GPA CAN NEVER make up for a low test score. P.S. Not saying GPA is completely irrelevant. I’m laughing so badly from seeing these 4.0ers whining and bitching that their high GPAs don’t mean squat for college admissions and scholarships.

Face the facts, national test scores are far more important than GPA.
My 2210 SAT score opened up doors to the most prestigious colleges in the nation (I attend Princeton now), and I pay absolutely NOTHING to attend. Despite my horrendous 3.42 high school GPA, I managed to get my ass into an Ivy.

Currently, I make a few bucks working in the admissions office. The things I hear while working there are completely different than what their ad-coms tell students.
One of the things they mention from time to time is that a high test score can make up for a low GPA, but a high GPA CAN NEVER make up for a low test score.

P.S. Not saying GPA is completely irrelevant.

]]> By: Monica Cosgrove http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-9417 Monica Cosgrove Fri, 18 Mar 2011 21:05:59 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-9417 To be perfectly honest, only one part of this bothered me. It was the assumption that today's students are brighter than ever. This is simply not true. Today's students, if anything, are lazier than ever. I have sat in classes in which the professor literally gives the test to the students as a study guide, gives the answers, and then the class average on the exam is still only a 78. Now, sitting on a scholarship committee, it would appear that nearly everyone has a high GPA. After all, that's generally who is applying for thed scholarships, those with high academic standing. However, the fact is, not everyone is in high academic standing, and it is not true that every bachelors is equal in work load to another. I'm a psychology minor for example. I don't have to buy my books for my psychology classes to get an A in them, which is why it became my minor rather than my major 2 years in. On the other hand, if I tried to go through a class in formal logic without owning the book or going to class, I'd be hard pressed to even pass the class, much less get an A. The area of study should be taken into account as well, rather than just assuming that everyone has a high GPA now or that students are brighter today than they were in the past. But, that's just my two cents. To be perfectly honest, only one part of this bothered me. It was the assumption that today’s students are brighter than ever. This is simply not true. Today’s students, if anything, are lazier than ever. I have sat in classes in which the professor literally gives the test to the students as a study guide, gives the answers, and then the class average on the exam is still only a 78. Now, sitting on a scholarship committee, it would appear that nearly everyone has a high GPA. After all, that’s generally who is applying for thed scholarships, those with high academic standing. However, the fact is, not everyone is in high academic standing, and it is not true that every bachelors is equal in work load to another. I’m a psychology minor for example. I don’t have to buy my books for my psychology classes to get an A in them, which is why it became my minor rather than my major 2 years in. On the other hand, if I tried to go through a class in formal logic without owning the book or going to class, I’d be hard pressed to even pass the class, much less get an A. The area of study should be taken into account as well, rather than just assuming that everyone has a high GPA now or that students are brighter today than they were in the past. But, that’s just my two cents.

]]> By: Brendan http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-9362 Brendan Tue, 08 Mar 2011 13:51:57 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-9362 I agree about GPA - at my high school over 60% of the senior class is on the honor roll, most on the A honor roll. Impressive... until you look at their junior standardized test scores and find that only 20% were proficient or above on the state testing and by ACT standards less than 5% were prepared to succeed in college! I agree about GPA – at my high school over 60% of the senior class is on the honor roll, most on the A honor roll. Impressive… until you look at their junior standardized test scores and find that only 20% were proficient or above on the state testing and by ACT standards less than 5% were prepared to succeed in college!

]]> By: Kathryn http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-9273 Kathryn Sun, 20 Feb 2011 20:16:20 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-9273 It just occurred to me that the author of the article might mean high school GPAs rather than college GPAs, which is a somewhat different story. But yeah, I worked in a college dorm as an academic assistant, and I was pretty well convinced of the validity of GPAs at my school by the numbers associated with our low-achieving students. They'd get put on academic probation for being lower than something like a 2.5, and guess what? All those lazy kids who didn't study were on academic probation by the second semester. So yeah, I do think the fact that I got a 3.7 in the same system is significant, because yeah, I did work for that, and so did the other high-achieving students I knew. Does that mean that I'm going to go on about my GPA without backing it up with what courses I've actually taken? Haha, no. Of course you want to show off what you've done that's a.) valuable to your overall education and b.) relevant to whatever you're applying to. I'd just like to note that I loathe emails addressed to "Dear {!firstname_fix}." That alone was enough to get my hackles up, but then he goes on to address sentences within the letter to me personally (“Your GPA doesn’t really matter that much, {!firstname_fix}. If at all.”) and honestly, it wants to make me punch the author in his smug face. Don't use personal forms of address within your mass emailing. It makes you look like a douchebag. It just occurred to me that the author of the article might mean high school GPAs rather than college GPAs, which is a somewhat different story. But yeah, I worked in a college dorm as an academic assistant, and I was pretty well convinced of the validity of GPAs at my school by the numbers associated with our low-achieving students. They’d get put on academic probation for being lower than something like a 2.5, and guess what? All those lazy kids who didn’t study were on academic probation by the second semester. So yeah, I do think the fact that I got a 3.7 in the same system is significant, because yeah, I did work for that, and so did the other high-achieving students I knew.

Does that mean that I’m going to go on about my GPA without backing it up with what courses I’ve actually taken? Haha, no. Of course you want to show off what you’ve done that’s a.) valuable to your overall education and b.) relevant to whatever you’re applying to.

I’d just like to note that I loathe emails addressed to “Dear {!firstname_fix}.” That alone was enough to get my hackles up, but then he goes on to address sentences within the letter to me personally (“Your GPA doesn’t really matter that much, {!firstname_fix}. If at all.”) and honestly, it wants to make me punch the author in his smug face. Don’t use personal forms of address within your mass emailing. It makes you look like a douchebag.

]]> By: David http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-9243 David Thu, 17 Feb 2011 08:00:41 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-9243 Very nice reply. I agree our high GPA's are from hard work. Very nice reply. I agree our high GPA’s are from hard work.

]]> By: Hussein Hawawu http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-9003 Hussein Hawawu Sun, 30 Jan 2011 12:15:19 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-9003 GPA, really does not mean anything, since parents and students alike pass through the backdoor to get better GPA. thus output should be the hallmark if industries are to achieve their targets. GPA, really does not mean anything, since parents and students alike pass through the backdoor to get better GPA. thus output should be the hallmark if industries are to achieve their targets.

]]> By: lilian njambi Kunyiha http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-8880 lilian njambi Kunyiha Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:32:15 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-8880 I am very happy to know that my GPA is not important for me to win a scholarship but my main interest is to achieve my goals and help build the eccnomy I am very happy to know that my GPA is not important for me to win a scholarship but my main interest is to achieve my goals and help build the eccnomy

]]> By: lilian njambi Kunyiha http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-8879 lilian njambi Kunyiha Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:29:27 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-8879 I am very happy to know that my GPA is not important but my main interest is to achieve my goals and help build the economy I am very happy to know that my GPA is not important but my main interest is to achieve my goals and help build the economy

]]> By: lilian.kunyihagmail.com http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-8877 lilian.kunyihagmail.com Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:09:20 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-8877 I am very happy to know that my GPA is not important at all but my interest is to achieve my goal and help build the econony I am very happy to know that my GPA is not important at all but my interest is to achieve my goal and help build the econony

]]> By: Blake http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-8767 Blake Mon, 10 Jan 2011 18:41:13 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-8767 It's a good thing that my GPA isn't all that important, because I don't care about my GPA anyway. I'm not trying to achieve a 4.0; I'm trying to achieve excellence in every activity I do. It’s a good thing that my GPA isn’t all that important, because I don’t care about my GPA anyway. I’m not trying to achieve a 4.0; I’m trying to achieve excellence in every activity I do.

]]> By: Stephanie http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-8744 Stephanie Sat, 08 Jan 2011 16:54:55 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-8744 I am currently attending a community college. My financial aid is carrying me for now, but for my 3rd and 4th year of my undergrad I will need scholarships. Does my college GPA matter as little as a high school GPA?? I am currently attending a community college. My financial aid is carrying me for now, but for my 3rd and 4th year of my undergrad I will need scholarships. Does my college GPA matter as little as a high school GPA??

]]> By: Marvin http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-8734 Marvin Fri, 07 Jan 2011 16:44:08 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-8734 Yeah...i agree 100% with your suggestion...i mean since when did GPAs lose meaning...m purpose...the author of this site is one true bafoon..to think so...what a shame.thanx Yeah…i agree 100% with your suggestion…i mean since when did GPAs lose meaning…m purpose…the author of this site is one true bafoon..to think so…what a shame.thanx

]]> By: Adah oyigocho stanley http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-7998 Adah oyigocho stanley Sat, 20 Nov 2010 17:56:13 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-7998 Good day sir, are u saying those who are applying for the scholarship should not give a G.p.a Good day sir, are u saying those who are applying for the scholarship should not give a G.p.a

]]> By: Viva Mexico http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-7920 Viva Mexico Thu, 11 Nov 2010 21:20:07 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-7920 viva la revolusion!! g.p.a is give pase again viva la revolusion!! g.p.a is give pase again

]]> By: Ted Fogal http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-7880 Ted Fogal Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:16:12 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-7880 I am enjoying the e-mail that I have received from you and the GPA comments are right on point. It has been 33 years since I was in school and I have no clue what grading system they used. I know that I was an average student. The other headaches about applying for schlorships are that I never thought that I be in this situation about going back to school. When I lost my right foot in 2004 and homeless after getting out of the hospital I was devastated. But I thought if I put down those things that it would hinder my schlorship chances. I am enjoying the e-mail that I have received from you and the GPA comments are right on point. It has been 33 years since I was in school and I have no clue what grading system they used. I know that I was an average student. The other headaches about applying for schlorships are that I never thought that I be in this situation about going back to school. When I lost my right foot in 2004 and homeless after getting out of the hospital I was devastated. But I thought if I put down those things that it would hinder my schlorship chances.

]]> By: Tessa http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-7762 Tessa Tue, 26 Oct 2010 08:34:03 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-7762 Since im not in the USA, and i dnt know how their education system is, i will strongly disagree with you Josh, GPA in our continent an specifically in our country matters alot if one has to be considered legible for a scholarship, im not gonna say anything in anyones favour or satisfaction, just telling the truth that i know, my GPA isnt bad at all, yet there are students out there with higher ones then mine, yet i dont allow that to deter me to apply for a scholarship, since GPA doesnt matter, great then, all applicants are therefore legible for a scholarship, Since im not in the USA, and i dnt know how their education system is, i will strongly disagree with you Josh, GPA in our continent an specifically in our country matters alot if one has to be considered legible for a scholarship, im not gonna say anything in anyones favour or satisfaction, just telling the truth that i know, my GPA isnt bad at all, yet there are students out there with higher ones then mine, yet i dont allow that to deter me to apply for a scholarship, since GPA doesnt matter, great then, all applicants are therefore legible for a scholarship,

]]> By: seriously disturbed http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/21/scholarship-screwup-2-bore-me-with-your-gpa/#comment-7448 seriously disturbed Tue, 05 Oct 2010 23:45:50 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=130#comment-7448 seriously annoyed: you're a business student and talk about the hard work you have to do for your classes, haha. try bme and see if you cut it. everyone double majors in business and math for the grade boost seriously annoyed: you’re a business student and talk about the hard work you have to do for your classes, haha. try bme and see if you cut it. everyone double majors in business and math for the grade boost

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