Comments on: Scholarship Screwup #1: Thrust Your Religion and Politics Upon Me http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/ Renegade Advice About Scholarships, Financial Aid, College & Jobs Thu, 09 Feb 2012 12:51:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: meshack http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-11130 meshack Fri, 15 Jul 2011 15:01:42 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-11130 i didnt know that such issues are of concern as am yet to write an essay but all in all, thanx i didnt know that such issues are of concern as am yet to write an essay but all in all, thanx

]]> By: Anthony http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-11088 Anthony Wed, 13 Jul 2011 15:54:42 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-11088 While I do understand the point, it doesn't take a lot of thought to extend the premise from "Religion" and "Politics" to "Music" and "Books". Sure, a democratic judge may disagree with my republican views and a republican judge may disagree with my democratic views. A theistic judge may disagree with my atheistic worldview. And those three judges will probably judge against my essay for my disagreement. But then...Let's say I am doing an essay on the musical quality of heavy metal. If a judge doesn't like heavy metal music, then the same logic applies. Same if I do country, rap, or even pop music. Simply: You can't please everyone. And now I dare you to think of an "open-ended" topic that can't tie into something people have strong opinions over while being entertaining. Any "selfish" topic like your future, volunteer work, grades, or achievements is too boring. Any historical or scientific examination will be boring, may lack a specific point, and may be controversial. Any philosophical discussion will be percieved as a 'ranting' and be both boring and controversial. While I do understand the point, it doesn’t take a lot of thought to extend the premise from “Religion” and “Politics” to “Music” and “Books”.

Sure, a democratic judge may disagree with my republican views and a republican judge may disagree with my democratic views. A theistic judge may disagree with my atheistic worldview. And those three judges will probably judge against my essay for my disagreement.

But then…Let’s say I am doing an essay on the musical quality of heavy metal. If a judge doesn’t like heavy metal music, then the same logic applies. Same if I do country, rap, or even pop music.

Simply: You can’t please everyone.

And now I dare you to think of an “open-ended” topic that can’t tie into something people have strong opinions over while being entertaining. Any “selfish” topic like your future, volunteer work, grades, or achievements is too boring. Any historical or scientific examination will be boring, may lack a specific point, and may be controversial. Any philosophical discussion will be percieved as a ‘ranting’ and be both boring and controversial.

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-10853 Anonymous Thu, 30 Jun 2011 21:49:39 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-10853 Obviously not, if the other comments are any indication. Obviously not, if the other comments are any indication.

]]> By: Elizabeth http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-9324 Elizabeth Tue, 01 Mar 2011 18:22:06 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-9324 I understand that writing an essay about a controversial topics, such as religion or politics, might cause problems - but what about mentioning your religion or your church, especially if it is a contraversal one, like The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormon church). How would that affect my chances? I understand that writing an essay about a controversial topics, such as religion or politics, might cause problems – but what about mentioning your religion or your church, especially if it is a contraversal one, like The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (the Mormon church). How would that affect my chances?

]]> By: Ashley Rivera http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-9132 Ashley Rivera Wed, 09 Feb 2011 17:51:14 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-9132 What if the essay question asks us about our volunteer work and our volunteer work happens to be at our church? How can we keep it so religiousless then? I ask because this was an essay question and after reading this I feel like my chances to get it dropped. What if the essay question asks us about our volunteer work and our volunteer work happens to be at our church? How can we keep it so religiousless then? I ask because this was an essay question and after reading this I feel like my chances to get it dropped.

]]> By: Stephanie http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-8764 Stephanie Mon, 10 Jan 2011 03:39:52 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-8764 I totally understand your advice and agree it is sad we don't live in a perfect world. Even in a less than perfect world, it is sad those who are judges cannot lay their opinions aside and respect someone's differing opinion. I am one of those very pro-life, strong religious convcitions people. Not all of my opinions are in line with the average "Christian" though. I attend a Christian school and had to deal with this issue not for scholarships but for grades. How awesome it is my school, a fundamental type Christian school, not only allows me to express different opinions but encourages it, and my professors are able to put their opinions aside when grading my papers. It seems scholarship judges should be able to do the same, but oh well... I guess it boils down to this for me: if I have to choose compromising my beliefs or hiding them to get money, I will figure out a way to do it without the money. If more people in Nazi Germany had stood up in the beginning despite being "politically uncorrect," maybe things would have been very different and millions of lives spared. What is more important: to play the game and get all you can or to stand up for what you believe no matter the consequences? I vote for those who are not lukewarm but who have an opinion, whatever opinion that may be, and who are willing to be different and speak out whatever the consequences. What lesson are we teaching our youth when we tell them to go along and keep silent to get what they want? Just a thought.... I totally understand your advice and agree it is sad we don’t live in a perfect world. Even in a less than perfect world, it is sad those who are judges cannot lay their opinions aside and respect someone’s differing opinion. I am one of those very pro-life, strong religious convcitions people. Not all of my opinions are in line with the average “Christian” though. I attend a Christian school and had to deal with this issue not for scholarships but for grades. How awesome it is my school, a fundamental type Christian school, not only allows me to express different opinions but encourages it, and my professors are able to put their opinions aside when grading my papers. It seems scholarship judges should be able to do the same, but oh well… I guess it boils down to this for me: if I have to choose compromising my beliefs or hiding them to get money, I will figure out a way to do it without the money. If more people in Nazi Germany had stood up in the beginning despite being “politically uncorrect,” maybe things would have been very different and millions of lives spared. What is more important: to play the game and get all you can or to stand up for what you believe no matter the consequences? I vote for those who are not lukewarm but who have an opinion, whatever opinion that may be, and who are willing to be different and speak out whatever the consequences. What lesson are we teaching our youth when we tell them to go along and keep silent to get what they want? Just a thought….

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-8004 Anonymous Sun, 21 Nov 2010 06:28:01 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-8004 Evette, Do you ever wonder if your A's are bias too? The essays says no one is perfect, and I agree. But you can be a student and do a poor job, and still get A's- only because the teachers see your grades, or only because you cry and wine for an A. Your A means nothing more than that to me- because I learned unfortunately that, that's how I get them. You need to think for yourself. In essays be the pop culture, not the celebrity. Evette,
Do you ever wonder if your A’s are bias too? The essays says no one is perfect, and I agree. But you can be a student and do a poor job, and still get A’s- only because the teachers see your grades, or only because you cry and wine for an A. Your A means nothing more than that to me- because I learned unfortunately that, that’s how I get them. You need to think for yourself. In essays be the pop culture, not the celebrity.

]]> By: Lauren Schmenk http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-7967 Lauren Schmenk Wed, 17 Nov 2010 05:18:55 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-7967 I agree with you 100% I agree with you 100%

]]> By: Lauren Schmenk http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-7966 Lauren Schmenk Wed, 17 Nov 2010 05:11:46 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-7966 This is retarted. You asked me who my hero is, and I answered. I love how biased this panel is. Put yourself in the shoes of the student whos applying. It shouldn't be judged on who the person is, it should be judged on what the question is and how well it was answered. This is retarted. You asked me who my hero is, and I answered. I love how biased this panel is. Put yourself in the shoes of the student whos applying. It shouldn’t be judged on who the person is, it should be judged on what the question is and how well it was answered.

]]> By: xaz http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-7945 xaz Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:39:29 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-7945 bravo. umm, marry me? bravo. umm, marry me?

]]> By: xaz http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-7944 xaz Sun, 14 Nov 2010 17:27:50 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-7944 annnnnnnd that's why you guys won't get picked. so someone (an expert, no less!) gives you advise on what not to do, and you stubbornly say you think you should do it anyway. hmm. there are sensitive topics that judges may find offensive. do you really think it's a great idea to talk about how jesus saved you, and everyone needs jesus christ or they're going to hell....when a jewish judge is reading? i'm sure you can imagine all the other offensive ways to write. i only offend people with my lack of capitalization. josh is telling you that your butt does look big in those jeans, you know, the truth. people like him are going to be scanning through your applications, so listening to his fair warning is only sensible. he just wants to make sure you stand out like a red letter on a page filled with black and white. get the money now (get through the doors!) and be political religious fanatic of the millennium once you get into school and/or graduate. if one had to borrow money from someone else in order to get into school, one would most likely appeal to the people giving out said money. question: if you feel your god will grant you a way, then why are you worried about applying? neutrality is not dishonesty, nor is it being untrue to yourself. annnnnnnd that’s why you guys won’t get picked. so someone (an expert, no less!) gives you advise on what not to do, and you stubbornly say you think you should do it anyway. hmm. there are sensitive topics that judges may find offensive. do you really think it’s a great idea to talk about how jesus saved you, and everyone needs jesus christ or they’re going to hell….when a jewish judge is reading? i’m sure you can imagine all the other offensive ways to write. i only offend people with my lack of capitalization. josh is telling you that your butt does look big in those jeans, you know, the truth. people like him are going to be scanning through your applications, so listening to his fair warning is only sensible. he just wants to make sure you stand out like a red letter on a page filled with black and white. get the money now (get through the doors!) and be political religious fanatic of the millennium once you get into school and/or graduate. if one had to borrow money from someone else in order to get into school, one would most likely appeal to the people giving out said money. question: if you feel your god will grant you a way, then why are you worried about applying? neutrality is not dishonesty, nor is it being untrue to yourself.

]]> By: Mukwusu http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-7835 Mukwusu Mon, 01 Nov 2010 21:56:01 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-7835 Thanks for the tips. Every one should use wisdom in whatever they do in life. Unless Religion and politics are the topics provided by the judges, the topics should not be imposed on them if they don't want it. I agree, but everyone has to still stand on what they believe in, with their lifestyle rather than words only. Thanks for the tips. Every one should use wisdom in whatever they do in life. Unless Religion and politics are the topics provided by the judges, the topics should not be imposed on them if they don’t want it. I agree, but everyone has to still stand on what they believe in, with their lifestyle rather than words only.

]]> By: Mohamed http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-7731 Mohamed Sun, 24 Oct 2010 08:55:34 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-7731 hi all i believe that if questions asking about something that relate to my religious belief or political opinions i never ever change mine to get acceptance for judges, but i will explain that if necessary, but if questions related to general topics, actually no need to add more words in no suitable place, the best speech is the lesser , the guider and evry body could detect when, where and what to say. hi all i believe that if questions asking about something that relate to my religious belief or political opinions i never ever change mine to get acceptance for judges, but i will explain that if necessary, but if questions related to general topics, actually no need to add more words in no suitable place, the best speech is the lesser , the guider and evry body could detect when, where and what to say.

]]> By: Spo http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-6905 Spo Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:48:46 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-6905 Frankly, I think you guys are being a little touchy about this. All he is saying, is that judges are normal people, like you and me, and its human to have trouble not letting a bias effect your opinion. He's not saying throw down your beliefs, he's saying if it's not necessary, don't throw theories and beliefs at them. Answer the question at hand, and keep preachy, bold beliefs to yourself, because you never know who you might offend, and with good writing and ideas, you don't need them to write a good essay. Frankly, I think you guys are being a little touchy about this. All he is saying, is that judges are normal people, like you and me, and its human to have trouble not letting a bias effect your opinion. He’s not saying throw down your beliefs, he’s saying if it’s not necessary, don’t throw theories and beliefs at them. Answer the question at hand, and keep preachy, bold beliefs to yourself, because you never know who you might offend, and with good writing and ideas, you don’t need them to write a good essay.

]]> By: Chelsea http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-3373 Chelsea Wed, 28 Jul 2010 18:29:13 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-3373 The tips are very helpful. Thank you! The tips are very helpful. Thank you!

]]> By: Victor Omatsone http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-3372 Victor Omatsone Fri, 23 Jul 2010 08:04:03 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-3372 No doubt Judge Josh is very very explicit with his expository work. My advice is not to shy away from politics or religion but to handle each subject matter moderately as possible. Thanks for this EXPO No doubt Judge Josh is very very explicit with his expository work. My advice is not to shy away from politics or religion but to handle each subject matter moderately as possible. Thanks for this EXPO

]]> By: james http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-3371 james Wed, 30 Jun 2010 21:22:49 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-3371 thanks for wasting my time.... All the points you have stated are things every logical person knows. thanks for wasting my time…. All the points you have stated are things every logical person knows.

]]> By: brit http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-3370 brit Thu, 24 Jun 2010 08:47:15 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-3370 Sonscary, honey, really? You're callin me religious? Haha, I'd love to see your face if you really did meet a pharisee like you so eloquently geeked out about. I'm just a girl that loved God and isn't afraid to say it. And you can call me whatever you'd like, but I ain't takin any of it to heart because I know the truth. And sooner or later you'll find that flaw and it'll rock your world. I'm not here to judge and condemn not my job. Hell's hot, forever's a long time...I'm just tryin to help. Sonscary, honey, really? You’re callin me religious? Haha, I’d love to see your face if you really did meet a pharisee like you so eloquently geeked out about. I’m just a girl that loved God and isn’t afraid to say it. And you can call me whatever you’d like, but I ain’t takin any of it to heart because I know the truth. And sooner or later you’ll find that flaw and it’ll rock your world. I’m not here to judge and condemn not my job. Hell’s hot, forever’s a long time…I’m just tryin to help.

]]> By: Nathanael King http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-3369 Nathanael King Wed, 09 Jun 2010 10:49:25 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-3369 Hey Judge Josh, I do know of a perfect world, but there are no scholarships to apply for there, because they aren't needed. Education is free from the One who knows everything. There aren't any martinis there either, as there are far better (and less damaging) pleasures to enjoy. In case you haven't guessed yet, I'm talking about heaven, and the way there has been provided free of charge by God's son Himself. All one must do is admit that they are a sinner, trust Him with their life, and accept His sacrifice of Himself as their substitution, so that they don't have to take the punishment for their own sins, which is death and Hell. It's all explained in the Bible, and I'd love to meet you there. Hey Judge Josh,

I do know of a perfect world, but there are no scholarships to apply for there, because they aren’t needed. Education is free from the One who knows everything. There aren’t any martinis there either, as there are far better (and less damaging) pleasures to enjoy. In case you haven’t guessed yet, I’m talking about heaven, and the way there has been provided free of charge by God’s son Himself. All one must do is admit that they are a sinner, trust Him with their life, and accept His sacrifice of Himself as their substitution, so that they don’t have to take the punishment for their own sins, which is death and Hell. It’s all explained in the Bible, and I’d love to meet you there.

]]> By: Sonscary http://www.outlawstudent.com/2009/07/17/scholarship-screwup-1-thrust-your-religion-and-politics-upon-me/#comment-3368 Sonscary Mon, 31 May 2010 12:26:10 +0000 http://www.givemescholarships.com/?p=129#comment-3368 BTW- Master of the obvious (moi) has the annoying need to point-> EVERYTHING is about money. Religion, Politics -all that fun stuff is ALL about flow. Just like all this is. Who has it, who wants it and how they're gonna get it. Just a nougat for the noggin while ya brew your spew. BTW- Master of the obvious (moi) has the annoying need to point-> EVERYTHING is about money. Religion, Politics -all that fun stuff is ALL about flow. Just like all this is. Who has it, who wants it and how they’re gonna get it. Just a nougat for the noggin while ya brew your spew.

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